S01E47: Coaching Session: Tips from a Newsletter Pro — with Josh Spector of For The Interested
— A one-paragraph newsletter shows you simple, proven ways to use writing to grow your business based on how others have done so.
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Wanna grow your newsletter audience using paid social?
Good news! We’ve got an exclusive (and totally free) treat for you today from ads expert, Matt McGarry.
Having recently left The Hustle to do this stuff independently, Matt now helps (some major!) newsletters grow through Facebook and TikTok ads. And in his exclusive Sparkloop Masterclass, he shared all his secrets for mind-blowing subscriber growth.
So now, we’re sharing it with you!
Here's what you’ll discover:
If you're like a lot of people who want to grow their business with ads, this probably isn't the first training you've consumed on the subject.
And you've probably found a lot of the stuff you've seen on Facebook ads, either:
Three things that make this training different:
Not only does it make it more interesting, but also easier to implement immediately. No generic advice allowed!
This is not just theory.
We’re sharing tried and tested techniques for acquiring millions (yes, millions) of subscribers with Facebook and TikTok ads.
Our ads expert, Matt McGarry, takes you behind the scenes of how these tactics work for his clients, like;
Ready to discover tactics you won’t find anywhere else? Great! Stick around
Looking for a step-by-step walkthrough of setting up your Facebook pixel? You’re in the wrong place.
This is not a technical tutorial. We’re showing you the high-impact tactics for positioning and producing your ad creative, plus the best (but little-known) practices you need to grow your newsletter fast.
In other words, we’re covering the “fun” stuff only.
So, let’s get started.
Before we get going, it’s important to note that we’ll be walking you through setting up your ad campaign on Facebook (not Tik Tok). Mostly because:
“I find Facebook to be the better platform. TikTok is a great new platform, but if you can get your Facebook ads to work in the way that I'm gonna show you, your TikTok ads will work really well too.” — Matt McGarry
There are actually seven steps for running a successful newsletter ad campaign on Facebook;
But given how important it is to create an attention-grabbing ad creative (and make sure the right eyeballs see it) — we’re focusing on steps one to four today; they have the most impact (and are the most fun!)
First things first, you need to set the intention for your campaign.
You're trying to get signups for your newsletter, right?
So you have two options:
Conversion campaigns are great for getting low-cost subscribers and prompting a paid conversion.
You gain the advantage of the upsell; by sending traffic to your paid newsletter, your online course, or whatever product you have on sale after people subscribe.
Lead-gen campaigns are great for getting the lowest-cost subscribers and readers. And mean you don’t need to do the extra work of making a high-performing landing page before you begin.
If you’re unsure, we recommend setting up a lead gen campaign first because you can get the lowest cost per subscriber and improve from there.
If you’re opting for a lead-generation campaign, you won’t need a high-converting landing page. But you will need a lead form.
Lead forms bypass the need for readers to click through to a form and enter their details manually. Using lead gen ads, they subscribe via the in-app form and their details are automatically populated by Facebook (or Tik Tok).
Regardless of the platform you use, there are a few things you must have to create a lead form that converts well.
“Join hundred 75,000+ Investment Bankers, Investors, and VCs” is better than “75,000 readers”.
And if you’re new and don’t have many subscribers (<100) — use your expertise or any prestigious work experience for some authority building instead. But, if you’ve got 100+ subscribers, use that number!
Below we’ve included Matt’s personal recommendations for each section in your ad set and targeting setup.
You need fifty conversions per week to exit the learning phase and properly optimize your ads. So between $30 to $50 per day for each ad set depending on your CPA.
If your budget is lower than this, you may not get enough conversions for Facebook to find your subscribers.
Select these three:
Why only these three? Matt says:
“I wouldn't bother testing any of the other placements. They just haven't worked for any of the newsletters that I've worked with.“
Remember, once your ads growth machine starts working and you’re generating live results — you can begin testing different placements. But to conserve resources when you begin, limit your spending to the above only.
This is really important because you don't want your audience to be too narrow or too broad— both will cause you problems.
10 to 50 million is a good audience size. And if you're a little bit below that, a little bit above that, it's not a big deal. But somewhere around there is the best practice.
Important: The first step (before you do anything here) is to exclude your current subscribers from all of your Facebook ads.
This might go without saying, but you want to exclude anyone who opts into your form, as well as upload your current email list to the custom audience section and exclude them. You don't want to retarget them and spend your budget on people who are already subscribed.
Then, you can use the custom audiences and detailed targeting features to get specific about who will see your ad and get to the ideal audience range.
There are many options to choose from when targeting via interests, so stick with these three for the best results:
Do this by choosing:
Upload your entire email list and test that as the look-a-like audience.
A lot of people go wild and start segmenting their email list and only want to create an audience from their most engaged subscribers. Forget that. Just upload your entire list, test it, and see how it does.
If your newsletter audience is primarily one age or one gender, test this targeting option.
For example, Milk Road is a crypto newsletter. Most of their audience is men age 25 to 45. So on Facebook, we have assets that are targeting men aged 25 to 45. It’s a super simple tweak if you know that information.
The most important part of this process is your ad creative.
The ad you show on the platform will make or break your campaign. If it’s not good, people won’t subscribe. It’s that simple.
So spend most of your time and effort here.
Let’s take a look at several examples of high-performing ads, and then we’ll share the #1 shortcut there is for making ad creatives that convert.
Use a screenshot of the notes app, notion, or a picture of a notepad.
The fastest, easiest, and most effective way to create better ads is to start a collection of excellent examples that you love or know convert well.
Simply create a folder on your phone or your computer and start taking screenshots as you're scrolling through Facebook, Instagram, or TikTok.
As you can see, we’ve gone in-depth with Facebook ad creation, and havent covered much of Tik Tok. Well, the good thing is, Tik Tok essentially swiped Facebook’s UI for their ads management, so it’s very similar.
But there is one major difference, can you guess what it is?
If you guessed “MANDATORY VIDEO” then you get a prize :)
To run a TikTok ad, you need a video. And what’s awesome is, that TikTok video ads work really well as Facebook ads, too.
So what we want to quickly cover today, (before we leave you to get creating!) is how to find TikTok creators or actors to make your videos great.
Getting your videos right is really important for both ad platforms, so it’s worth taking a look at some answers to these burning creator questions.
Use hashtags in your niche to find people.
As you scroll through TikTok or reels — if you find a creator that you think can make a great video ad — save them, and then reach out to them.
Look for creators in your niche who are not super huge. Because you’re asking them to make an ad, to record a video. You're not actually asking them to make an influencer post, which is significantly more expensive. Find the creators who have between 10,000-100,000 followers.
If they're that small, you can probably afford to pay them to make a video. If they have a million followers, their price for video is going to be out of your budget.
There are lots of people creating TikTok-style videos on Fivver now that are really good. I use this a lot. Search UGC videos, TikTok video ads, reels, or videos. You'll find a lot of TikTok creators who are offering their services and you can buy videos from them.
Swipe House, Billo, and Trend.io also have some options.
“I made a lot of mistakes when I first started making TikTok videos for ads. I didn't give the creators clear instructions and then they would make a mistake and then I have to make a revision, and then it'll wind up costing more or taking more time.”
Here is a template you can download to make it easier to work with and direct your video creators.
High-performing TikTok ads rely on excellent videos as your ad creative, significantly more than Facebook ads. So test your TikTok videos first on Facebook to see if they work.
If they're performing well on Facebook, it means they're driving low low-cost subscribers. And they’ll likely work really well for TikTok too.
If they don't work on Facebook at all. You might want to test more videos on Facebook and Instagram before you test them on TikTok.
You can see why Matt McGarry is the pro we look to when it comes to social ads!
You now know…
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